Well DUH! Top Gear compares Toyota Prius and BMW M3

Well its a lazy Sunday afternoon and I have been catching up on my blogs, I just ran across a YouTube video of a Top Gear episode where they talk to what could be considered by some misconceptions about the Toyota Prius's environmental impact as well as its economy.

On environmental impact they talk primarily about the batteries focusing on the lifecycle of the nickel used in the batteries, it from mines in Canada, then goes to Europe for refinement, from there it goes to China for processing into a foam which then finds its way to Japan to be turned into batteries which in turn ultimately finds its way into the cards, they indicate that one report found that in the long term it does more environmental damage than the Land Rover Discovery.

I have heard reference to this report before, though I was unable to find it with just a couple of minutes of searching, I do know many environmentalists dispute the validity of the report.

They also do a short, non-scientific, mileage comparison (10 laps around a track) between a Prius and a BMW M3, the Prius only got around 17.2mpg while the M3 got 19.4mpg; to be fair they admit the conclusion from this test is not that the BMW is more fuel efficient, after all EPA says real world drivers on average get 36-56mpg in the Prius while the BMW shows only about 17.8mpg.

The conclusion they encourage folks to come to is that the biggest change when it comes to mileage is to be found from changing the way you drive.

I know many folks who have the Prius, most tell me they get closer to 30mpg for the kind of driving they are doing; for us I have been on a Diesel push, the new diesels are kinder to the environment than their gasoline counterparts, get pretty good mileage, for example the 2009 BMW 335d gets about 35mpg, the new 2009 Jeta TDI is looking at 29mpg to 40mpg and the 2009 Audi A4 TDI is shooting for 59mpg.

Going diesel has a number of up-sides, there is of course the torque but you now also have fully domestic and potentially self sufficient sources of diesel that can today be produced with both virgin oil as well as waste oil and in the future from many other sources.

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# re: Well DUH! Top Gear compares Toyota Prius and BMW M3 7/1/2008 3:37 PM david holmes

My friend with a Diesel Jetta gets over 40 mpg, but then he has a serious price to pay since its the top gay car (google: jetta + gay).

On the other hand, JR also gets in the low 40's with his PRIUS and doesn't suffer that gay penalty.

I get 31 in my Chevy Cobalt and 15 in my F-150 and INFINITE on my Trek Navigator.


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# re: Well DUH! Top Gear compares Toyota Prius and BMW M3 7/1/2008 7:05 PM Ryan Hurst

I am maried so I don't have to worry to much about that ;)

That being said the Jetta isnt my favorite car, its just the most economical diesel sedan right now.

I guess the upside for me is my car isnt dead yet (though its close) so I have some time before I have to pick :)


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 re: Well DUH! Top Gear compares Toyota Prius and BMW M3 7/7/2008 2:18 PM ryan's ex lover

i ride a pink scooter which gets me 90MPG and get compliments from hot chicks all the time.
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 re: Well DUH! Top Gear compares Toyota Prius and BMW M3 9/5/2008 12:43 PM Barry Brisco

Was interested to read your comments about the Prius: "I know many folks who have the Prius, most tell me they get closer to 30mpg for the kind of driving they are doing". I bought one new in March 2008. I have been impressed with the mileage. My wife and I typically get 47mpg or more on a tank. Sometimes we get as little as 44mpg, sometimes 49 mpg. We have never had less than 44. We live in a hilly area near San Francisco. If we lived in Iowa (no hills) I bet we would get at least 50mpg all the time. Anyone who gets 30mpg in a Prius is driving it as if it was a Porsche (and I own a Porsche).

Name me one other car currently available that averages 47mpg, can seat 5 people comfortably and still have a fair-sized trunk, with the rear seats folded down offers an extremely spacious trunk, has a very comfortable interior, and is packed with options including leather seats and GPS navigation? Can't do it? That's because there aren't any. Only a Prius can offer all that. I paid $26K for it in March 2008. It was a bargain. They've now gone up several thousand dollars due to greatly increased demand. I'm not surprised.

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